Mind & Life
John Dunne - At the Crossroads of Buddhism and Science

John Dunne - At the Crossroads of Buddhism and Science

February 26, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with Buddhist scholar John Dunne. John has interfaced with contemplative scientists for over two decades to help advance rigorous research on meditation by incorporating a nuanced Buddhist perspective. They touch on many topics, including:

  • his path to integrating Buddhism and science, and the early days of contemplative research;
  • defining "meditation" for research purposes;
  • focused attention vs. open monitoring meditation;
  • a deep dive into meta-awareness;
  • subject/object duality and whether anything really exists;
  • the different ways we experience the sense of self;
  • hallucinogens, ego dissolution, and non-dual practices;
  • decentering and dereification;
  • and where he thinks the field should go next.

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Eric Garland - Working with Addiction & Pain

Eric Garland - Working with Addiction & Pain

February 12, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with clinical researcher and psychotherapist Eric Garland. Eric has spent his career developing effective ways to use mindfulness and other contemplative approaches for problems like addiction and chronic pain. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

  • how early mystical experiences led him to a contemplative path;
  • the power of meditation to heal and restore well-being;
  • self-transcendence and non-dual states of consciousness;
  • the features of his intervention, Mindfulness-Oriented Recovery Enhancement (MORE), and its application for addiction and chronic pain;
  • how reappraisal can help in difficult situations;
  • the role of savoring and reconnecting with natural rewards;
  • deconstructing pain;
  • a large clinical trial showing how effective MORE is, and how it might work;
  • and the biggest lesson he's learned from his work so far.

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